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[Steerpike]

The thing I want to avoid is macro-gaming. I shouldn't get a chance to know what you'll (every other PC) plan to do, so I can adjust my tactic in anticipation.

Yeah. In my group we call it meta-gaming, and we generally prohibit it. If you're acting on something that you as the player know because you're sitting around the table, but that your character can't possibly know, you're using meta-game knowledge for in-game actions.

One way I avoid that with experience players who know all about stuff in the game is I change up monsters, spells, and magic items all the time. So if people try to meta-game a monster, it backfires because the monster isn't the textbook version and behaves differently

 

[Legendary Sidekick]

Yeah… I knew about darkness only because Mauve and I were on rolz almost at the same time. I saw she rolled a natural 20, and felt better I was rolling damage.

I guess I can say it now—Baldy felt that being serious about helping with the man hunt was the only way she could keep guilt away from the party. Her hope was that making her oath loudly would get Gisla on her side. If Mauve, Aliron or another chose to use that information to warn Ankari to flee town, that was her preference.

But I really would've had her fight her best, though I told Steerpike PvP is the last thing I want.

Glad Mauve got the darkness in before Baldy was in charging range. Makes it easier for what she plans to do later, not that half of what I plan/anticipate can really happen.




@Ireth, this was the no-death possibility I was talking about. Good thing Cadell and Liadan are on horseback! I think only humans (Baldy, Mauve, Bressel, Burnbright) are in town now.

 

[Ireth]

@Ireth, this was the no-death possibility I was talking about. Good thing Cadell and Liadan are on horseback! I think only humans (Baldy, Mauve, Bressel, Burnbright) are in town now.

Yes, I realize that now. I'm still not sure what Cadell intends to do, though -- from the way he moved toward the darkness in my last post, it seemed like he intended to stop them. I suppose I should decide whether Cadell thinks Ankari is worth protecting, or if he should be handed over to the authorities for justice, knowing full well he'll be executed. Gotta love character dilemmas!

 

[Nihal]

That's true, I forgot to show off!



My natural 20 that preceded that natural 1 STR check.


Ireth, if he tries to get Ankari Mauve will trip his horse! ò.ó


P.s.: LS, don't forget Aldar... he was in the inn the last time we heard of him.

 

[Legendary Sidekick]

P.s.: LS, don't forget Aldar... he was in the inn the last time we heard of him.

Mauve: "It's the evil wizard who cast the darkness spell!"
Angry Mob: "BRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!"
Aldar: "Uh… hello?"

 

[Nihal]

Mauve: Collateral damage?


FYI: I'm not sure about Baldhart getting out the temple after talking to Mauve, unless she talked to her through the window, heh. Well, time to address the angry mob uh?

 

[Legendary Sidekick]

Yeah, I meant she says that from near the window. She doesn't go out that way, though. The angry mob needed words, for whatever good they might do.

I don't see Ankari getting caught on foot. I have this slapstick comedy vision of what happens when a galloping horse carries two riders into a darkness globe… good thing they love each other.



EDIT - I edited the part with Gisla as future tense (planned action), in case we remain in organized turns. Or if the mob slows Baldy down.

 

[Legendary Sidekick]

@Nihal, did SP ninja you?

 

[Nihal]

Yup. And you. I more or less fixed my post, now I'll read your posts properly to see if I missed something.

 

[Steerpike]

Remember Gisla isn't a gullible villager but a veteran mercenary. She was in the temple when Mauve cast the spell outside the window (the message) and when the darkness appeared outside and Ankari broke the window to let it in. She can be convinced of things but is too much of an old soldier to be tricked against the evidence of her own eyes, so she knew or at least strongly suspected right away that Baldhart was lying to her.

 

[Nihal]

Yeah, I bet. Mauve however has no way to know this or that even that she intends to arrest Mauve right away. *sigh*

Her hope is that Gisla doesn't know enough details about magic to buy Mauve's version.


P.s.: Fixed some odd sounding sentences that I edited after being ninja'd, but her reaction is essentially the same.

 

[Steerpike]

Gisla is fair, at least.

I just wanted to clarify that her 'mind your oath' comment to Baldhart wasn't about going after Ankari, but was about Baldhart's pledge to Gisla, followed by Baldhart lying to Gisla at the first opportunity to do so

 

[Legendary Sidekick]

Well… Ankari was using magic to aid his escape. Baldhart just didn't say who casted the spell for him. She has to be careful not to break a past oath, so 'don't be fooled' was the best she could say, where 'Mauve did it' would break a past oath.

She'll likely need to come clean to Gisla about that.

 

[Nihal]

I hope Gisla doesn't fear magic. D:

 

[Steerpike]

Well… Ankari was using magic to aid his escape. Baldhart just didn't say who casted the spell for him. She has to be careful not to break a past oath, so 'don't be fooled' was the best she could say, where 'Mauve did it' would break a past oath.

She'll likely need to come clean to Gisla about that.

I was thinking about the comments Baldhart made to Mauve, about how she "almost had him" etc., creating the impression that Mauve had tried to catch Ankari but he'd used magic to get away. Since Gisla and the blacksmith were the only other people in the room I figured that was for their benefit, because both Baldhart and Mauve know that Mauve wasn't trying to catch Ankari but had helped him instead.

 

[Legendary Sidekick]

Oh… then let me clarify.

That part was meant for Mauve, as a safe-to-overhear hint for her to keep her mouth shut. Baldy's fear was the the spell by itself would have worked, but Mauve trying to call Ankari a warlock aroused suspicion—and she hoped the commotion by the door saved her from that. Her hope there was that Mauve would still think Baldy supportive and would not attempt to continue the 'it's not really Ankari' lie.

I honestly thought Gisla was already shoving the horse aside and out the door, so she wouldn't be one to overhear Baldhart's comment. (In a normal voice, not whispered, but not bellowed.) I didn't think it would be oath-breaking for a villager to overhear the words, since the oath was to Gisla and Baldhart did nothing to aid Ankari's escape.

 

[Steerpike]

LS:

Yes, she wouldn't have heard it. I misread it as something you wanted her her to overhear, so I let her go ahead and hear it. It makes more sense that she wouldn't, but I thought you were directing it at her. We can assume she didn't hear that, then, and her 'mind you oath' comment is meant to prevent Baldhart from taking up arms against the Gisla and the villagers if things go poorly. She'll be more trusting of Baldhart in that case, where before I thought Baldhart was intentionally trying to deceive Gisla with a ploy that wouldn't work well since Gisla is a smart one

 

[Nihal]

Mauve needs to explain the spell... She'll not stick to the lie itself, she knows how bad she is when she tries to lie so plainly, so she has another strategy in mind. If only they hear her... D:

 

[Legendary Sidekick]

LS:

Yes, she wouldn't have heard it. I misread it as something you wanted her her to overhear, so I let her go ahead and hear it. It makes more sense that she wouldn't, but I thought you were directing it at her. We can assume she didn't hear that, then, and her 'mind you oath' comment is meant to prevent Baldhart from taking up arms against the Gisla and the villagers if things go poorly. She'll be more trusting of Baldhart in that case, where before I thought Baldhart was intentionally trying to deceive Gisla with a ploy that wouldn't work well since Gisla is a smart one

Exactly why Baldy tried to get Mauve to shut up. She wouldn't attempt to deceive Gisla for the same reason she was boldly truthful to Calexa: deception only works on idiots, and it's best used on those you plan to kill or flee from.

Baldy actually didn't want anyone to overhear it, really, but being seen whispering is worse than being overheard.

 

[Nihal]

deception only works on idiots—

*looks at the villagers*

—and it's best used on those you plan to kill or flee from.