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We never mentioned Catli/Burnbright in front of Conal, right?
tbgg
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Well, we might need a GM call on that.
Not long after Nissa, Conal, and the trustworthy guards met up with Baldy, Liadan, and Callan to talk about defending Ballara and just before Zoran captured the orc who later led the group to the orc camp to talk to Korgak, Masama came out and reported that Burnbright's mother had appeared to her in that vision. Before that point, all that had been communicated was the party's belief that Aslaug is searching for her daughter, and may be sending agents into Ballara to listen for news of her. Not long after Masama's report and the early interrogation of the captured orc, the party led Tumi, Rannock, Callan, and Conal to the camp and explained that the party is protecting Burnbright and your reasons for being suspicious of Aslaug's motives (she sends monsters!). Presumably Conal was listening to that, though I didn't see a specific response from him to the news.
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Not long after Nissa, Conal, and the trustworthy guards met up with Baldy, Liadan, and Callan to talk about defending Ballara and just before Zoran captured the orc who later led the group to the orc camp to talk to Korgak, Masama came out and reported that Burnbright's mother had appeared to her in that vision. Before that point, all that had been communicated was the party's belief that Aslaug is searching for her daughter, and may be sending agents into Ballara to listen for news of her. Not long after Masama's report and the early interrogation of the captured orc, the party led Tumi, Rannock, Callan, and Conal to the camp and explained that the party is protecting Burnbright and your reasons for being suspicious of Aslaug's motives (she sends monsters!). Presumably Conal was listening to that, though I didn't see a specific response from him to the news.
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@Steerpike: Cali gets a racial bonus of +2 to checks involving any one secondary attribute, and I chose WIS for that. Her base WIS score is 13, so +1. What I am not sure of is whether the +2 bonus is to the base attribute score (so 13 +2 = 15 for a bonus of +2), or whether the bonus is to the attribute bonus itself (so +1 +2 = +3). I kinda need to know that before I make my WIS roll for her. Thanks!
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It will be in addition to the +1 for her base WIS. So it's a +3 bonus in total.
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I'm seriously bummed Cali had such a low roll. I really wanted her to disbelieve "Conal"! All of my recent rolls on Rolz have been low lately, though. <sigh>
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You should still be able to believe or disbelieve. A failed roll just means you won't get any additional clue from the GM (I think).
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This sort of thing causes debates in gaming circles. There are two groups (broadly defined)
1) you play your character entirely by stats and rolls, and if your character rolls to try to gain insight into something (like a disguise) and fails, then she's clueless; and
2) You play using your own wits, and die rolls and checks are for additional information that you can't glean on your own.
The best place is probably somewhere in the middle. If you have an INT of 6, you don't want to play your character as a genius who figures everything out even if you are a genius yourself. But when it comes to things like trying to determine whether someone is lying, or what have you, it makes sense to me to let players decide that for themselves. That's standard roleplaying among PCs and NPCs and doesn't need a roll in order for a player to decide what her character thinks. If a roll and made and succeeds, then as GM I'll give them player a little more information to help solidify things one direction or another (does it seem like you're right to believe, or disbelieve, etc), but I don't like to put prohibitions on them.
In this sort of instance, if Cali thinks Conal is lying or something else is wrong, she is free to think that. She may not have any hard evidence, just a gut feeling, whereas a successful check might provide evidence one way or the other, but you're free to roleplay your character as you see fit. If a character with WIS 4 started having clever insight after clever insight, I'd probably say something. But the one game I ran where a PC really did have a WIS that low, the player did a great job of it.
1) you play your character entirely by stats and rolls, and if your character rolls to try to gain insight into something (like a disguise) and fails, then she's clueless; and
2) You play using your own wits, and die rolls and checks are for additional information that you can't glean on your own.
The best place is probably somewhere in the middle. If you have an INT of 6, you don't want to play your character as a genius who figures everything out even if you are a genius yourself. But when it comes to things like trying to determine whether someone is lying, or what have you, it makes sense to me to let players decide that for themselves. That's standard roleplaying among PCs and NPCs and doesn't need a roll in order for a player to decide what her character thinks. If a roll and made and succeeds, then as GM I'll give them player a little more information to help solidify things one direction or another (does it seem like you're right to believe, or disbelieve, etc), but I don't like to put prohibitions on them.
In this sort of instance, if Cali thinks Conal is lying or something else is wrong, she is free to think that. She may not have any hard evidence, just a gut feeling, whereas a successful check might provide evidence one way or the other, but you're free to roleplay your character as you see fit. If a character with WIS 4 started having clever insight after clever insight, I'd probably say something. But the one game I ran where a PC really did have a WIS that low, the player did a great job of it.
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Aliron watches with suspicion...wow, that never happens.
Aliron would watch a preschool play with suspicion.
As well he should. Do those children really believe they're reenacting an accurate portrayal of the first Thanksgiving? Indoctrination, I tell ya... ((rambles on for 2d4 hours)) ...and to top it all off, they do all that wearing modern day tennis shoes. No one played tennis on the first Thanksgiving. No one plays tennis any Thanksgiving. Bah. Kids these days. Kids any days.
As well he should. Do those children really believe they're reenacting an accurate portrayal of the first Thanksgiving? Indoctrination, I tell ya... ((rambles on for 2d4 hours)) ...and to top it all off, they do all that wearing modern day tennis shoes. No one played tennis on the first Thanksgiving. No one plays tennis any Thanksgiving. Bah. Kids these days. Kids any days.
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I'm going to write my own Thanksgiving play for elementary school. In it, one group of kids are on the brink of starvation. Another group, plagued by ancestral enemies of their own, decide to help the starving ones out on the chance that they'll be able to turn such an alliance to their advantage.
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Sent PM to Cali about what she sees.
tbgg
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Hey Steerpike, can Cali tell whether the long knife that "Conal" is carrying is the same dagger the scarred man was using in Dalla's room before Cali knocked him out? (Though as I recall, Cali grabbed that knife after knocking him out just before she went running for help.)
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Why yes, now that you study it a moment it is the same knife. Maybe Conal took it away from him...
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Can Cali tell why he is studying his hands?
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No. She's not sure why he's doing that or whether it's just a mannerism when he's nervous.
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Cali has a chance to report to Baldhart and/or the others, if she so desires, before anything else happens. Feel free to go ahead and post if you like. If Cali doesn't want to report, I'll update the thread.
Cali has a chance to report to Baldhart and/or the others, if she so desires, before anything else happens. Feel free to go ahead and post if you like. If Cali doesn't want to report, I'll update the thread.
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Hey all...had to fly to the east coast unexpectedly Friday. My grandmother was very ill. She passed away this afternoon at 101 years of age, surrounded by family. I only have my phone tonight but should be somewhere I can use my laptop tomorrow.
Ireth
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I'm sorry for your loss, Steerpike. I know what losing a grandmother feels like.
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I'm sorry for your loss, SP - post when you can. 
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