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[Steerpike]

If there is a fine question of good or evil, I give the benefit of doubt to the player. If need be, I'll bring it up in a PM and resolve it from there. If you're torturing people, however, regardless of the cause you espouse or the law you recite, you can safely assume that in this world you are committing an evil act unless there are some seriously extenuating circumstances for which the person being tortured has some moral culpability.

 

[Ireth]

What about someone like Cadell, who (according to his character sheet, at least) falls smack in the middle of the good/evil, law/chaos grid? I think I've been unconsciously playing him more on the good side.

 

[Sparkie]

Dispositive. :help:

I had to look it up. Good word, though. :redface:

 

[Sparkie]

What about someone like Cadell, who (according to his character sheet, at least) falls smack in the middle of the good/evil, law/chaos grid? I think I've been unconsciously playing him more on the good side.

From what I've read, neutral characters typically prefer good over evil (they'd rather have good neighbors than bad), but view matters with dispassion. Just my take.

 

[Steerpike]

What about someone like Cadell, who (according to his character sheet, at least) falls smack in the middle of the good/evil, law/chaos grid? I think I've been unconsciously playing him more on the good side.

Cadell is fine, and I'd agree that you've been playing him to the good side just a little. No one is playing a character in an evil manner thus far. If anyone wants to, they can. I think I mentioned in one of the initial character creation threads that it could make things more difficult on that character, but I just wanted to reiterate it.

 

[Nihal]

This is the first time I'm happy I'm a Brazilian reading something in English. Dispositive is a common word in Portuguese (just change the "e" for "o"), although it also means "device" here. =P


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Feel free to scold me or change Mauve's alignment if needed. I didn't have the chance to get out the dramaqueen state, neither is the game progressing in the way I expected (my rolls are largely to blame here hah). All those events had a good impact on her, they will either change her or push her further in her initial road.


Hm... I'm also wondering about evil characters who love and protect puppies. xD

 

[Steerpike]

Feel free to scold me or change Mauve's alignment if needed. I didn't have the chance to get out the dramaqueen state, neither is the game progressing in the way I expected (my rolls are largely to blame here hah). All those events had a good impact on her, they will either change her or push her further in her initial road.

None of that is going to have an impact on her alignment one way or another. Drama between characters isn't going to affect it

 

[Ravana]

Hmm. Maybe I'll throw in a dissertation on the way I view alignments… in a separate thread. It would be too long here, and would be my view, not the "official" one—at least not official for this game.

Short version: I consider good and evil to be absolute, not relative.

The Aztec priest who conducts human sacrifices may be the paragon of his society, but the sacrifices are an evil act. This is why the alignment Lawful Evil exists at all. It's entirely possible for a LE character to never commit an overtly evil act and still remain in character, depending on the situations he finds himself in, as long as he is accepting and following the rules of his society… whatever those are. If he would follow an order to massacre all the inhabitants of a town were one given him, then he'd still qualify for Evil, whether that order ever came or not.

Similarly, Chaotic Good characters are almost by definition less "chaotic" than CN or CE—in overall potential, if not in fact—since "good" entails certain rules of conduct which don't have the same ordering force as "lawful," but which constrain the CG character from doing just anything he feels an urge to.

There is, of course, a vast amount more which could be said. Which is why I'm not saying it here. Maybe later.

 

[Nihal]

None of that is going to have an impact on her alignment one way or another. Drama between characters isn't going to affect it

I believe it's possible to melt an evil character or push a good one in such a situation he becomes a way less... noble, changing then their alignments. In this case, who better than the characters to do this?

I said dramaqueen but I should have chosen a better word. She's depressed, she threw herself in a foreign world just to discover that nothing works, not even what she's supposed to be good at. Many of her notions proved wrong. While sometimes it's simply caution that dictates her actions now she has been retreating and trying to get her little pieces together.

...and maybe an axe out of her back soon enough.

 

[Nihal]

Now Mauve acted out her plan I can say it: This was her strategy from the beginning. *grins*
And it went better than the expected! I thought I would fail again and she would end inflicting only 1 point of damage.

Now we need our beloved GM to rule out all the variables. Even if Ankari manages to strangle her I'm happy. :3

 

[Steerpike]

Under a normal situation, viewing it as melee, Ankari's grab is his action in the round, and Mauve's spell is hers. The casting time for the spell is 1 (if it were longer, the outcome would be different). The spell normally requires a successful touch attack. In this case, since Ankari has her by the throat, I'd give bonuses to the touch attack (probably loss of DEX mod to Ankari's AC, since that makes sense). As it happens, the touch attack is successful. There's nothing else that needs to be done. Except maybe to run

 

[Nihal]

So... I finally got a spell right during a fight? *dances*

I should feel bad since it was a fight vs another player, but... my first offensive spell roll! I guess he'll beat the s*** out of her now, but she won't run. She was really looking forward this opportunity.

 

[Steerpike]

So... I finally got a spell right during a fight? *dances*

I should feel bad since it was a fight vs another player, but... my first offensive spell! I guess he'll beat the s*** out of her now, but she won't run. She was really looking forward this opportunity.

You should be thanking Ankari. Maybe he forced the successful casting out of you

 

[Nihal]

You should be thanking Ankari. Maybe he forced the successful casting out of you

Hahaha, yes! It's awesome how she was angry the other 2 times she got a spell right and now she's mean.

By the way, anything interesting happened to the staff? I'm curious! She was going to use detect magic on it, however now she ended beta testing this thing haha.

 

[Ireth]

I'm wondering whether Cadell and Darin will wind up getting the chance to explore the tunnels at all, since they seem to have been hampered by one discussion/argument or another ever since we skipped ahead. I really hope they do get to, it sounds like a fascinating opportunity for plot things, shinies and XP. ^^

 

[Phietadix]

I'm wondering whether Cadell and Darin will wind up getting the chance to explore the tunnels at all, since they seem to have been hampered by one discussion/argument or another ever since we skipped ahead. I really hope they do get to, it sounds like a fascinating opportunity for plot things, shinies and XP. ^^

You do know that there are high level hostile lizards in those tunnels, right?

 

[Ireth]

Killjoy. XD

Yeah, you're right though. Still, Steerpike PM'd me about some interesting stuff that Cadell and Darin talked a bit about, and it would be awesome if we actually got to see that stuff in-game.

 

[Steerpike]

Going to give a bit more time for Ankari and Mauve to finish what they're doing.

 

[Ravana]

I'm wondering whether Cadell and Darin will wind up getting the chance to explore the tunnels at all, since they seem to have been hampered by one discussion/argument or another ever since we skipped ahead. I really hope they do get to, it sounds like a fascinating opportunity for plot things, shinies and XP. ^^

You can always practice stitchery while we wait. Hiljikki claims there's nothing to sewing wounds. It's just like stabbing someone to death… as long as you aren't worried about getting hungry before you're finished.

 

[Sparkie]

Going to give a bit more time for Ankari and Mauve to finish what they're doing.

Bondage play?