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tbgg

tbgg

Dark Lord
Where I get it from is this:
Half Elves favoring human lineage also get: +2 to all attribute checks with a chosen secondary attribute.

Maybe that's not quite the same definition as prime, but that's the bonus whose related attribute I'm trying to determine. (Sorry, I'm still learning the terminology here!)

I really would prefer to make an informed decision if possible. But if no one has seen an Illusionist before, I may come back to the random choice option. :)
 
Ireth

Ireth

Mythic Scribe
tbgg said:
Where I get it from is this:
Half Elves favoring human lineage also get: +2 to all attribute checks with a chosen secondary attribute.

Maybe that's not quite the same definition as prime, but that's the bonus whose related attribute I'm trying to determine. (Sorry, I'm still learning the terminology here!)

I really would prefer to make an informed decision if possible. But if no one has seen an Illusionist before, I may come back to the random choice option. :)
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Secondary attributes are your attributes which are NOT prime.

This is my only RP that's anywhere close to DnD, so I'm afraid I can't help you with the Illusionist question.
 
Legendary Sidekick

Legendary Sidekick

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Example: INT is your class prime, and you choose CHA as your other prime.
You choose DEX as your secondary with a +2 bonus.

This means that when you roll a DEX check or DEX save, you roll (if level 2 with 9 in DEX)—
1d20+2+0+2
—and it's a secondary, so you still need to roll an 18 + difficulty level.
 
tbgg

tbgg

Dark Lord
I think I'm going to go with WIS as my bonused secondary. I like the idea of Cali being able to read into people to determine what illusion to choose. Here's to hoping the poor girl doesn't die early in battle, given her complete lack of physical prowess, LOL!
 
Ireth

Ireth

Mythic Scribe
tbgg said:
I think I'm going to go with WIS as my bonused secondary. I like the idea of Cali being able to read into people to determine what illusion to choose. Here's to hoping the poor girl doesn't die early in battle, given her complete lack of physical prowess, LOL!
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Don't worry, we'll protect her. ^^
 
Philster401

Philster401

Scribal Lord
I am sorry I get lost so quickly in this rpg but I still wish to welcome you. I started getting lost when we got to the orc camp because school is making it hard to find time to make posts but we have gotten 3 feet of snow and are off until at least Wednesday so hopefully I will make a post in rhe next go around.
 
tbgg

tbgg

Dark Lord
One more thing...given Cali can't carry that much, weakling that she is, I was thinking about having her buy a pack mule - I'm pretty sure she'll have enough coin for that. What do you guys think about that? Or are we not messing with the encumbrance stuff listed in the player handbook?
 
Legendary Sidekick

Legendary Sidekick

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Philster401 said:
I am sorry I get lost so quickly in this rpg but I still wish to welcome you. I started getting lost when we got to the orc camp because school is making it hard to find time to make posts but we have gotten 3 feet of snow and are off until at least Wednesday so hopefully I will make a post in rhe next go around.
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Stay safe over there. Hopefully, your governor will put safety before politics and not have you in school on Saturday or in June to make up state-of-emergency days.
 
Philster401

Philster401

Scribal Lord
We normally have 2 weeks of snow days built it to the school year and what we have to worry about at least on my street is the rain we supposed to have tomorrow.
 
tbgg

tbgg

Dark Lord
Well, I got to reading in the C&C handbook about how DEX helps mages stay focused during battle, so I made that Cali's second prime instead of CON. Now she's not totally useless in a physical challenge, but she won't be taking damage all that well. Bring on the meat shields! ;)
 
Legendary Sidekick

Legendary Sidekick

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You can perform some feats of dexterity. Can illusionists throw weapons? They should have.... I don't know... razor sharp playing cards? A throwing rabbit? Rabbits have been thrown. They bounced harmlessly off Baldhart, but there is a precedent.
 
Steerpike

Steerpike

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Hey guys, I'm at work and don't have the PHB with me. I'll get answers to all the questions first thing this evening, when I have my materials to refer to as needed.

@tbgg - We're not really messing with encumbrance. It's more of a "keep it reasonable" standard. I went with C&C to begin with because when we started we had a lot of people who never played any kind of D&D, and I wanted something simple. Keeping track of encumbrance can be an unnecessary burden, so unless things get ridiculous I won't do it. If you're walking around with ten sword and five shields or something, then there will be an issue :)

A mule would certainly be handy, though, as the party has already begun to accumulate things.
 
tbgg

tbgg

Dark Lord
Steerpike said:
@tbgg

Do you know which printing of the PHB you got?
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The 4th printing. I got it on Kindle, so it's on my iPad.

Oh, look. I just found the info on racial ages, LOL. :eek: I was looking in the Half-Elf section, not at the beginning of the Racial section. Sorry about that!
 
Steerpike

Steerpike

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tbgg said:
The 4th printing. I got it on Kindle, so it's on my iPad.

Oh, look. I just found the info on racial ages, LOL. :eek: I was looking in the Half-Elf section, not at the beginning of the Racial section. Sorry about that!
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No problem. Glad you have the 4th printing, since that's the one I have as well :)
 
tbgg

tbgg

Dark Lord
Legendary Sidekick said:
You can perform some feats of dexterity. Can illusionists throw weapons?
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I don't know about throwing, but illusionists can carry staff, dagger, dart, and/or club. I was thinking about picking up a staff and dagger for Cali, but it almost sounds like I should rethink that. I would assume any of those could be thrown, though throwing the staff sounds kinda dumb unless you're using it as some kind of feint maneuver. The club might be too heavy for her low strength, but I would think the dart and dagger would be light enough. And if she could get some of that poison that party got from the drow for darts, oooh <evil laugh>

Steerpike: Are illusionists allowed to throw weapons? Even though the PHB says Illusionists eschew weapons because no intelligence is involved, Cali's human grandfather (who she was raised by) was a Paladin who specialized in tactics and strategy. He always taught people to use any weapon they could, and to think of things that weren't normally weapons as potential weapons. If what you had was not something the enemy expected you to use, so much the better. Accordingly, she doesn't hold the standard Illusionist prejudice against using weapons, though I understand she won't be able to cast a spell and throw something at the same time. But if for some reason she can't cast, having a weapon to throw would be a nice fallback. What do you say? Is it legal for her to throw something, given her now high DEX-as-prime?
 
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