Why use D&D races in our stories?

[Philip Overby]

Perhaps an evil race may be hard to swallow for some, but what about a race that has no morality at all? I mean, animals don't have morality. They're pretty much shaped by their environment. A wild dog may attack people on sight if they get close to him, while a pet dog, if trained well, may lick that person's hand. What if there was a fantasy race that functioned to that capacity? They weren't necessarily good or evil, but they just existed the same way animals do, to reproduce, to eat, etc. To me, that would be more terrifying than if there was an evil race.

I mean, what if sharks suddenly grew legs and decided to band together to form societies on land? We'd all be dead.

 

[WooHooMan]

Perhaps an evil race may be hard to swallow for some, but what about a race that has no morality at all? I mean, animals don't have morality. They're pretty much shaped by their environment. A wild dog may attack people on sight if they get close to him, while a pet dog, if trained well, may lick that person's hand. What if there was a fantasy race that functioned to that capacity? They weren't necessarily good or evil, but they just existed the same way animals do, to reproduce, to eat, etc. To me, that would be more terrifying than if there was an evil race.

I mean, what if sharks suddenly grew legs and decided to band together to form societies on land? We'd all be dead.

When people say "race" 9 times out of 10 they mean beings with at roughly human-level intelligence and reasoning skills. Animals is another subject entirely.
An intelligent race that lacks all semblance of morality is not unheard of but can be difficult to convincingly write. Often, how good or evil they are is shown in relation to other races. Again, that's a whole other topic.

 

[Ireth]

Maybe it's not a case of lacking morals entirely, but a moral compass that's totally askew from what humans consider "normal". A blue-and-orange scale versus black-and-white, for instance.

 

[Sir Tristram]

I don't know if this has already been posted, and I'm feeling too lazy to go through all the replies and check at the moment, so here's something that you may find interesting.
reinventing fantasy races | Terminally Incoherent

 

[Guy]

Perhaps an evil race may be hard to swallow for some, but what about a race that has no morality at all? I mean, animals don't have morality. They're pretty much shaped by their environment. A wild dog may attack people on sight if they get close to him, while a pet dog, if trained well, may lick that person's hand. What if there was a fantasy race that functioned to that capacity? They weren't necessarily good or evil, but they just existed the same way animals do, to reproduce, to eat, etc. To me, that would be more terrifying than if there was an evil race.

I mean, what if sharks suddenly grew legs and decided to band together to form societies on land? We'd all be dead.

It would depend on how intelligent they are. If we're talking animal intelligence, then this could work. The xenomorphs in the Alien movies, for example. Or zombies. But the term "race" implies intelligent creatures, and that would make this concept difficult. In order for a society to exist, it has to have rules of operation. That's a primary function of morals - they provide some sort of structural cohesion for the group. Any cohesive group, from human societies to wolf packs to herd animals, has some sort of hierarchy, behaviors that are required, behaviors that will not be tolerated, etc., which could be considered very rudimentary morals. With no morals whatsoever, without anything that could even be remotely considered morals, it wouldn't be a cohesive group, which sort of defeats the purpose of a group.

 

[ThinkerX]

Maybe it's not a case of lacking morals entirely, but a moral compass that's totally askew from what humans consider "normal". A blue-and-orange scale versus black-and-white, for instance.

This is kind of / sort of what I did with goblins/hobgoblins on my world...then again, on my world these creatures are *aliens* of the low tech variety. There is also a strong biological/reproductive component to their psychology and subsequent actions.

 

[Ireth]

This is kind of / sort of what I did with goblins/hobgoblins on my world...then again, on my world these creatures are *aliens* of the low tech variety. There is also a strong biological/reproductive component to their psychology and subsequent actions.

I do that all the time with my Fae characters. They might seem amoral to humans, but they have their own codes of conduct.

 

[Ryan_Crown]

I've never really understood the viewpoint that not creating your own unique, original races and instead using the old standbyes means that a writer's work is (or is likely to be) derivative and/or unoriginal. While sure, world-building can be fun, in most cases I look at the time I would spend developing all these brand new races (especially knowing I'm going to have to spend further time in the story describing/explaining them) as time that would be better spent developing the specific characters of my story, and well . . . actually writing my story.

Instead of spending hours developing some brand new original race for my surly blacksmith character, and then having to explain his racial characteristics to my readers, I'd much rather just call him a dwarf and move on to who he is and what he does in the story, feeling my time is better spent there.

Which is not to say there's anything wrong with developing your own races, I just don't see how that could be considered a basic requirement for a story to be "original". I would say the same thing applies to character archetypes (or "classes" if you want to look at it from a D&D perspective). So you've got an elf ranger, human paladin, halfling thief, dwarf fighter, and human wizard as your main characters? So what? The Dragonlance Chronicles trilogy, for example, uses about as standard/generic a group of adventurers as you're likely to find, and yet in my opinion they're a brilliantly written set of stories.

As I've seen many people say (in one form or another) -- ideas are cheap, it's how you execute them that matters. I would say that a talented writer could take the most cliched, over-used story ideas and still make a very enjoyable story out of them. And conversedly, a not-so-talented writer can have all the original, unique, no one has ever done this before concepts that they want, and still not be able to make a decent story out of them.

But that's just my personal view of things. Take it for what it's worth.

 

[Gurkhal]

I think that one of the reasons as to why D&D races should be avoided is because they often lead to lazy thinking.

For example you can start to throw in races into the world without making them having any noteable relevance for the plot and so get the thing bloated. If you have to come up with someonething of your own then you are less likely to just throw something in because you thought it would be nice right now and you may be more likely to invest something into your labor.

However I will agree that to some degree its ok to use certain races but its not ok to go down into to specific parts. It can be ok to have elves, I wouldn't recommend it, but it can be ok. But if an author have Drow or Noldor elves in his story then I most certainly think that he is copying and that's to specifically tied to a world to be used like that.

 

[Ryan_Crown]

However I will agree that to some degree its ok to use certain races but its not ok to go down into to specific parts. It can be ok to have elves, I wouldn't recommend it, but it can be ok. But if an author have Drow or Noldor elves in his story then I most certainly think that he is copying and that's to specifically tied to a world to be used like that.

That I can certainly agree with. It's one of the reasons I would never use half-orcs in a story -- because (at least for me) that is even more specifically D&D than orcs are specifically Tolkien. I can also see your point about standard races being too easy to just throw into your story, even if you don't need them, just because there's no real work necessary in developing them. I think that's part of why I've never really sat down and thought, "Okay, what races do I want in my story?" I work through each individual character and ask myself, "Okay, based on what I want from this character, what would be a good race for him/her?" The races that end up populating my story world then build up out of that process.

 

[Bortasz]