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[Steerpike]

I'd probably have to make a new table for it. Since it is magical energy gone wrong, it could do damage, but it would be interesting to have so healing effects. You blow the spell and the magic lashes out in all directions, healing everyone within 10' (friends and enemies alike)

But yeah, there would be negative possibilities as well.

 

[Steerpike]

So, as I was going to say, I was under the impression that Mauve could try to learn that spell too, but I couldn't understand exactly why. Now I do. Any character can learn magic, also spellcasters.

Yeah as it stands now, with the exception of life magic, any character can try to cast any spell. Non-casters are just at a serious disadvantage. If we make the change, then any elf at least could also try life magic.

 

[Ireth]

I'd probably have to make a new table for it. Since it is magical energy gone wrong, it could do damage, but it would be interesting to have so healing effects. You blow the spell and the magic lashes out in all directions, healing everyone within 10' (friends and enemies alike)

But yeah, there would be negative possibilities as well.

Mass healing would be awesome! As for negative effects, there's always backlash. In one of my other RPs, whenever our main healer heals an injury, the wound is echoed in his own body, though to a lesser degree. He heals a cut, and gets a painful red mark in the corresponding place on his own body, that kind of thing.

(That makes me wonder how that would have turned out for Rydh when he healed Cadell's maimed arm... maybe Rydh would have been unable to feel or use his left hand for a certain amount of time. Good thing it worked for the better!)

 

[Legendary Sidekick]

I think it's fair game that all elves can learn that healing spell, and there's a chance of a spell-fail for non-casters even if it's elven light magic.

If left to us, I might ask that elven light failure just means - Sorry, no healing for you! I think not all of the elves have WIS as a prime, meaning it'll fail 70-90% of the time. I think if you're more likely to lose HP than gain HP, no non-caster will attempt it, where if it's fail without being zapped, then the risk is that you waste a turn (if in battle) and waste your MP which takes hours to get back for non-casters.



EDIT - ...though the runaway table is interesting!

 

[Nihal]

I have nothing against non-caster elves being able to attempt elven magic. In theory they're still under disadvantage: they often won't have enough mana to cast any better healing spell, what will keep them from being OP.

 

[Ireth]

I think it's fair game that all elves can learn that healing spell, and there's a chance of a spell-fail for non-casters even if it's elven light magic.

If left to us, I might ask that elven light failure just means - Sorry, no healing for you! I think not all of the elves have WIS as a prime, meaning it'll fail 70-90% of the time. I think if you're more likely to lose HP than gain HP, no non-caster will attempt it, where if it's fail without being zapped, then the risk is that you waste a turn (if in battle) and waste your MP which takes hours to get back for non-casters.

That does make sense... unfortunately it's a big incentive for Cadell NOT to use that spell, since WIS isn't a prime for him. Which is a shame, since he's the one who first read the spell. :/

 

[Nihal]

Hey, he and all the elves should still give a try and learn it. It's better to know a healing spell which is hard to cast than knowing none at all.

 

[SeverinR]

Healing magic could save a life at just the right time, if the injury isn't too severe, it might be worth it.
Aliron would have a 90% chance of fail but could succeed.

 

[Legendary Sidekick]

That does make sense... unfortunately it's a big incentive for Cadell NOT to use that spell, since WIS isn't a prime for him. Which is a shame, since he's the one who first read the spell. :/

I think runaway magic might be a disincentive.

Possibility of failure isn't up for discussion, I believe. I think it's a question of whether to have runaway magic or not. Basically, with runaway, you can harm or heal when you fail. Without, there is no risk... just more odds the healing won't happen.

If we go the no-risk route, every elf can learn the spell. You can expect one elf to succeed. More likely none than two.

(Gotta run... I'll leave it at that and post.)

 

[Nihal]

Hey, did Baldhart look like this when she arm wrestled? xD

 

[Legendary Sidekick]

Hey, did Baldhart look like this when she arm wrestled? xD

^Scarier than runaway magic!

 

[Sparkie]

Scarier than this:

 

[SeverinR]

I think if non-casters can cast normal magic, then at least elves should be able to use Elven life magic.

It would be an unprepared spell so an ability roll would be needed. I think life energy magic should not cause much damage since its positive magic and its basically lvl 0 or lvl 1. Since I doubt a non-caster would ever attempt a -10 magic roll required for negitive mana use. (Granted a few might have 2 or 3 mana. But I doubt they would try a 2nd or 3rd lvl spell)

So we're talking first aid or heal light wounds with 80-90% chance of failure. Its not going to change the world.

I just realized, I fighting for the chance to cast first aid, since I have 1 mana point. I won't be able to heal anyone. As I said, it won't change the world if I am able.

(Cure light wounds requires 2 mp.)

 

[Ireth]

Rawr. Cadell only has 1 MP. Would that be enough for the healing spell he found on the parchment in the bone?

 

[Legendary Sidekick]

You'd go into negative MP if > Lv.0. Mana cost (I think) is consistently 1+spell level.

So, when Baldy (who also has 1 MP) casts Nissa Lv.2, she's down to -2 MP. At negative mana, you get 1/4 x level MP back. You go from 0 MP to 1 MP in one hour. So you can cast a Lv.0 spell every hour, or a Lv.1 spell every three hours.

It takes 5 hours for our characters to get mana back when casting at our own level. (That's true for most levels, including all from Lv.1 to Lv.6.)

 

[Legendary Sidekick]

My thought: Good idea. =P

We'll need rely on berries from now.

One more thought on berry-picking. Elves who want to learn magic need time to learn, I think. If that's the case, Baldhart can forage for berries (Deerstalker skill) while elves study in the harpy room.

Is that correct that spells take an hour or several to learn? I'm not actually sure where I heard that.

 

[Ireth]

Cadell had a bit of study time before he slept, so he might not need as much. Would it be worthwhile to practise, given that he'll take a decent while to regain mana?

 

[Legendary Sidekick]

One successful check and you'll know what it does!

Oh, is there a -10 check penalty for overcast elven light or not?
I guess you'd need a natural 20 if >Lv 0 in that case.

 

[Keitsumah]

Ooo a healing spell? gimme gimme gimme!

 

[Nihal]

One more thought on berry-picking. Elves who want to learn magic need time to learn, I think. If that's the case, Baldhart can forage for berries (Deerstalker skill) while elves study in the harpy room.

Is that correct that spells take an hour or several to learn? I'm not actually sure where I heard that.

Mauve already learnt some spells, but she—with Darin's great help—had to decipher the spellbook. It wasn't said how much time it took, I would estimate at maximum 2 hours. I don't know how much the magic school and the previous training in spellcasting would help with the learning time.